Episode 3: Doorways to Healing through Alice and Wonderland and the Dream Body with guest Elodie Miaow

April 6, 1:30 PM ET


Elodie joined me to record this episode for the Cosmic Soup Bowl. Our intention was to have a leisurely, fun, and free-flowing discussion about Alice in Wonderland and the doorways we find to healing through stories, myth, and imagination as well through the dream body. Jupiter’s transit through Pisces inspired and catalyzed our decision to get together and chat about the ways this transit is reflected through the dreamy scapes of Alice’s journey down the rabbit hole.

In this episode, we let our minds wander and allow ourselves to explore various matters of psyche, healing, and nature. A few topics you’ll hear us exchange ideas about include: Jupiter’s meanings and how they are reflected in the story of Alice in Wonderland; scenes from the early 1950’s animation; commentary on connection to the body and to nature; the meaning and importance of myth and imagination in a human life; the similarity and accessibility of dream states through psychedelics versus sleeping; the curious relationship we keep with time and how Saturn shows up as a main archetypal thread in Alice in Wonderland; how we can’t have Jupiter without Saturn; the wonder of children’s imagination; dream physiology from an East Asian healing perspective; Elodie’s recalling of a synchronous dream and the appearance of the goddess Xiwangmu the night before our conversation; and the symbols in Alice’s dreams based on some Jungian takes.

0:00-11:20

Reconnecting and orienting to the episode themes

11:21-11:55

Intro music

11:56-16:10

Orienting to current and previous year of transiting Jupiter in Pisces

16:10-1:18:30

Tapas (all the episode themes start emerging!) / Main course aka Alice, healing, and dreams

1:18:33-1:19:30

Closing/outro

Elodie:

IG @9th_house_astrology https://9thhouseastrology.wordpress.com


Ashley:

IG @heavenandearthsomatics

References:

(1951). Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland. Racine, Wis: Whitman.

Lewis Carrol Birth Chart: https://www.astro-seek.com/birth-chart/lewis-carroll-horoscope

Alice in Wonderland publication chart: https://oxfordastrologer.com/2012/09/the-fabulous-chart-of-alice-in-wonderland.html

Maatta, Jerry. HII, Katedralskolan, Uppsala, Sweden, March 1997. An Analysis of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland

https://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/resources/analysis/interpretive-essays/an-analysis-of-alices-adventures-in-wonderland/

Robson, David. Britain, February 2015. Five things Alice in Wonderland reveals about the brain

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150225-secrets-of-alice-in-wonderland

Stranger 941. July 2016. Deeper, Hidden Meanings and Themes in Alice in Wonderland

https://owlcation.com/humanities/Alice-in-Wonderland-What-Intriguing-Message-Does-it-really-Hold

Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Lakota native American, on intuitive intelligence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtQ7oJKDjRg

Michael Meade on Cultivating Mythic Imagination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNLOIQrIh3A

Otero, Ashley. The Numinous Dancing Wu. May, 2021.

https://www.cosmicsoupbowl.com/blog/2021/5/12/0d093dmhy1q2vxidwa6l56dn8jle68

Ashley Otero